hat love is the love of something; Secondly love is something that a person does not have at that time. Socrates then points out that earlier in Agathons speech he stated that the gods concerns became organized due to their love of things of beauty, because it is impossible to love undesirable things. Agathon agrees that love brought the gods goodness and beauty. Socrates then asks Agathon if his speech is his true belief then, he also believes that love loves beauty and not ugliness. Agathon trying to uphold his speechs integrity agrees that love and desire are one in the same and the same goes for goodness and attractiveness. Socrates then states that they have both concluded that love is the desire for that which someone lacks. Socrates then states that love lacks beauty and is therefore ugly itself. Socrates goes on to question Agathon if something is good it is also beautiful. Agathon agrees that love is not good in order to desire goodness. Subsequently Socrates says that love loves beauty and goodness and therefore lacks beauty and goodness. Agathon sees his defeat and tells Socrates that he cannot refuse the great Socrates argument. Socrates then says that he himself is a pushover, and what Agathon cannot refuse is not his argument, but the truth is what he cannot refuse....
