e not good for the state. He feels that love for the state should come first. He believes that every citizen should work for the common good. They go on to talk about war. Socrates states that the abolition of family will bring forth a better military, and add to the defense to the state. He feels that all people should go to war, including the children. Socrates feels that people will fight better to protect and impress the children with their techniques. Socrates then goes on to state the responsibilities of the state concerning war. He says that any soldier that is captured will no longer be a concern to the state, and if killed they will be buried with great honor and their graves will be tended with extreme respect. When the military is victorious respect is to be given to the defeated nation. No inhumane acts will be performed after the victory. Socrates proposes such war conduct because he wants the just city to be a model for all cities. Glaucon goes on to ask Socrates how a just city is possible. Socrates responds with a comparison of states to mathematics. Socrates also states that a just state is almost impossible, and that there venture was to discover what a just state was and to find the means in which it is made. Socrates goes on to say that kings should become philosophers, or philosophers become kings to achieve a just state. “’Unless,’ I said, ‘the philosophers rule as kings or those now called kings and chiefs genuinely and adequately philosophize, and political power and philosophy coincide in the same place…there is no rest from ills for the cities, dear Glaucon, nor I think for human kind, or will the regime we have now described in speech ever come forth from nature.’” (Bloom 153-154, 473d-e) Socrates goes on to define what his definition of a philosopher is. He basically says that a philosopher is one that desires the knowledge of all wisdom.Socrates the...
