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Socrates Lying Arguments

ot believe in this type of lie. He thinks:Don’t you know, that all gods and human beings hate thetrue lie, if that expression can be used. (382b)Socrates idea seems to show such hatred towards this lie. He is not a big fan towards immoral words and his dialogue proves his point well. Socrates believes the second type of lie is called a lie in speech. This situation is when one does not know the truth and makes up an explanation for someone or something to be able to function or protect themselves. This is harmful to the person/s told to, along with deceiving the liar’s soul. He also feels lies in speech are told as a substitute for knowledge not known. Socrates states through his words: For the lie in speech is a kind of imitation of theaffections in the soul, a phantom of it that comes into beingafter it, and not quite an unadulterated lie. (382b)Socrates believes that this is like a front for not knowing the answer to a question. Something that is unknown to you, but you feel that you still must give an explanation instead of feeling nave. The phantom part of that expression is where the explanation comes from. It just appears like a “phantom”.Now, what about the one in speeches? When and for whom is it also useful, so as not to deserve hatred? Isn’t it useful against enemies, and, as a preventive, like a drug, for so-called friends when from madness or some folly they attempt to do something bad? And, in the telling of the tales we were just now speaking about-those told because wedon’t know where the truth as best we can, don’t we alsomake it useful? (382c/d)This is a great example of the lie in speech due to not knowing what the actual truth is and still making stories up as Socrates was referring to when he was talking about those tales. He was describing how people would tell their children of stories in the past. Yet these people were uncertain of them to begin with so they made them up....

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